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* alternate pathways for foreign medical gradates
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  calcium - 08/17/09 19:40
 
 
Dear Friends:
One of the aspect or cause of our failure to get into residency program here in USA is wasting of time in observerships. The programs don’t consider observerships/research/externship as clinical experience for foreign medical graduates because whatever you do they think it’s not a quality clinical experience. So I don’t know how much it really helps. It might help also depending on individual cases but it is my opinion that if a USA degree is mentioned like a master’s degree or strictly clinical experience like surgical assistant or something like that, it would look good on resume/CV. Honestly if you are in USA for more than 1 year just doing observership, its not gonna help. If you in USA for 3-6 months waiting for match or applying for match than it’s a good idea to do some observership/externship. People usually say observership is helpful, well it indeed but not for 2-3 years, program director might have applicants who did master or some post grad degree while in USA, so they would prefer applicants with some educational/academic activities rather than just observership/research etc.. I hope I am clear now. I have seen it myself and hopefully you will also be able to see the change in your CV when you do a USA degree.
The other thing is when you are in USA don’t waste time get some diploma or something so that even if you could not get residency for whatever reason you should always have a back up plan and something you can do. And lastly my friends “USA is not the end of world, wasting years and years in search of residency and driving cabs or working at gas station does not worth it”. If you have resources then please travel somewhere else and get your goals over there. So bottom line is “Don’t waste time while staying in USA waiting for residency.”
I am going to mention some link so that you can try them and find out, what is good for you.
1. Optometry, is a degree which lets you practice as an optometrist and thinking long term you might get residency in ophthalmology. There is a school in Massachusetts, New England School of optometry, which lets foreign medical grads. finish the degree in just 2 years.
The New England College of Optometry
Association of Schools of Optometry
2. Master in Public Health, (MPH) It helps you getting a master degree and residency in occupational health, preventive medicine and even family practice. One example is a link below, there are almost 26-30 schools of public health in USA and it’s easy to get admission. Search the web for school of public health.
The Univ. of Texas-Houston-School of Public Health
American Public Health Association, links for all Public health schools
3. Surgical Assistants, certified surgical assistant get good pay and great clinical experience.
National Surgical Assistant Association
American board of surgical assistants
4. Master/Ph.D. degree in any basic Medical sciences like Pathology, pharmacology etc… this is offered by a lot of university programs and it’s not very hard to get into. It definitely helps in getting residency and a job. One example is a link below, there are 100’s of universities offering masters programs. search the web for your program of choice
The University of Texas-Houston Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences
5. Non-accredited fellowships in USA, these are fellowships offered by different intitutions like post doc research fellowships and clinical fellowships. US graduates don’t do these because they are not accredited and don’t make the eligibility criteria for board exams purposes. Some of the examples are below and you can find opportunities like these on web. The clinical fellowships require you to have ECFMG certificate, so that they could issue you a institutional permit, to work with the patients. Post Doc research fellowships could be in any field, pharmacology, pathology, biochem etc.. Clinical fellowships are in CV surgery, ENT and other subspecialties.
MD Anderson Cancer center, Houston, Texas
Texas Heart Institute, Houston, Texas
There is also another option of “School of perfusion technology”. The perfusionist makes good money and it’s a technical work. Basically it is the person who runs the By-pass machine during cardio-thoracic surgeries. It’s a good field but schools in USA don’t emcourage FMGs to do this course but there is no harm in trying.
Texas Heart Institute, Houston, Texas, look for perfusion technology
“Physician Assistant” is also another option but most schools require that you have BS degree from USA to enter into the school.
American academy of Physician assistants
6. PG medical education in the world: Follow the following links for post graduate medical education in Canada, England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand.
Australian Medical Council
College of Medicine of South Africa
NZ med jobs
New Zealand (NZ) medical council NZMC
Royal College of Physicians London
Royal College of Physicians of Edinburgh -
Royal College Ireland Royal College of Surgeons-IRE
The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada - Homepage
The Royal College of Surgeons of England
Some information based website done by docs in New Zealand, are also good.
Oversaes doctors
Oversaes doctors
I hope it helps all of you and please if you find any information about some other better alternate things in USA pls. email me and I will post it on web. My friends we have to help each other by spreading the information don’t keep the info to yourself spread it. It might help somebody like you.
 
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* Re:alternate pathways for foreign medical gradates
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  belibi - 08/18/09 12:31
 
  I have a full chapter on this in the International Medical Graduate's Best Hope book

Dr. Belibi
 
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* Re:alternate pathways for foreign medical gradates
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  rehman - 08/18/09 13:58
 
  I am from India, Done M.B.B.S ECFMG certified , FMG have green card did not match since 3 years, OLd gradute, Have 2 kids and am Totally broke cant take care of my family in USA
have hand to mouth existence i n USA

I want to know if I can do Masters degree in Pharmacology? Where and how do i apply which is the board of colleges weblink etc do i have to pay for this

I also want to know if i Can do POst doc Fellowship and clinical fellowships
I would like to do fellow ship in
Pharmacolgy, or IM , geriatrics etc or any clinical field
which is the website how do i do it.to find the colleges
please help

Can you email me at
bestdoc@live.com
 
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  quadhelix - 08/18/09 16:33
 
  Prior direct patient-care related medical experience and/or shadowing MDs in clinical practice is strongly recommended. Patient care experience and shadowing MDs in practice strengthens awareness of the demands of medical practice and helps candidates affirm their desire to pursue a career in the US Medical Residency Program.


so you are saying this statement is bullshit about shadowing physicians and its of no use to do observerships?
 
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  rei - 08/18/09 16:56
 
  rehman, you can check out petersons.com for MA and PhD programs and their requirements. you'll have to take TOEFL and GRE tests then apply directly to programs, with transcripts, LORs, PS, etc. You have better chances in preclinical specialties, and if you want to get paid (not much though) go for PhD; it is very hard to get funded for MA. Most application deadlines are dec-jan for the following August, so you don't have much time. there are application fees (45-60$ per program) but it is useful to first find professors at the institution that you're interested in and email them directly to say you're interested in doing a phD with them and asking if they have any openings in their labs. If they don't, then don't apply bc yuo're just wasting money.  
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  melsherif - 08/20/09 10:16
 
  10000000% agree,

You believe that MDs are the happiest or the wealthiest people on earth !!! You wrong

Physician assistants, or even advanced nurses in this country, on a broad scale, do make more money than MDs in any other country.

go for PhD or a master, if you can't do that go for Physician assistant,

if you don't have EAD or GC, go for nursing, nursing licence gets you a GC (I-485)

make money and live your life, this is the best advice
 
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